azekeil: (nice fish)
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So this is another probably obvious and trivial observation about human nature: Companies often form hierarchies that reflect general social feelings. Or, to put it another way - the things you hate about the government are probably present in the way the company you work for is run.

I remember working for a company where there was a glass ceiling on the career and remuneration opportunities for technical staff. The only real channel for progression was through management. Naturally this tended to channel technical staff towards management roles that possibly didn't suit them.

I read a thread on a forum recently where people were realising that people tended to look down on those in the service industry (e.g. retail [supermarket], restaurants, etc) - but recognised that these roles are essential. However, if you equate salary level with social standing, then there is a clear hierarchy which closely reflects whether people look up/down on a particular role.

Again I can't help think of Denmark's apparently more level playing field where there isn't such a marked discrepancy in salaries across different job functions.

I imagine the similarities between government, company and social structure are cause and effect.. but I'm not certain which causes what. I suspect social structure influences both government and companies, but it's perhaps more exaggerated in governments and companies than it is in societies?

I'd be interested to learn what Denmark's general company and government structures are like...

Date: 2013-07-09 07:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
In the end, there were half a dozen reasons why I resigned my previous job. One of the more major ones was that as a Principal Software Engineer there was no career progression I could make without moving into either an Engineering Manager or Architect position (and it basically wasn't possible to go from Software Engineer to Engineering Manager not via Architect, either). For someone who really is an extremely good software engineer but only a passable architect and absolutely not a manager, this was pretty stupid.

I mean the pay wasn't bad, but…

Date: 2013-07-10 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beebyb.livejournal.com
I'm sure you're right about social standing being reflected in pay. And, of course, technical staff (see I can't even write technicians as its now derogatory) not being able to move up except via the management line has always been so. I remember my father / your grandfather, rebelling and then eventually giving in and going to management to progress in the BBC. If Denmark or anywhere else really manages to overcome both these hurdles - I'd love to copy them...............

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