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You know when you embark on a task, you realise it's going to require some learning. I think there are four stages to this learning process (I've googled but I can't find anything that quite matches what I'm going to say here):

Knowledge
don't havehave
Awarenessaware
2. Discovery3. Pain
1. Ignorance4. Victory!
unaware


  1. Ignorance. Here you aren't aware you don't have the knowledge, and you also don't have the knowledge. Ignorance is bliss!
  2. Discovery. You start on the task and become quickly aware that you don't have the knowledge.
  3. Pain. You start learning about the knowledge, but all you are aware of at this stage is just how much you don't know! Pain! (incidentally, this is where I am now and hence why I'm procrastinating *grin*)
  4. Victory! You have the knowledge and are no longer aware of the lack of it.

Aside: isn't know a stupid word?!

Date: 2007-10-10 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theeighth.livejournal.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence

Date: 2007-10-10 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azekeil.livejournal.com
Damnit! Throughout my life I've reinvented stuff that others have invented. When I was young I thought that I was astonishingly clever. As I grew older I got depressed because anything I thought of had almost certainly been thought of before.

Nowadays I think if someone else hasn't thought of it then it can't be a particularly sound idea...

Date: 2007-10-10 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theeighth.livejournal.com
It is no less of an achievement to have rediscovered something now thought of as a cornerstone of learning theory. ^_^

Date: 2007-10-10 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azekeil.livejournal.com
And as most inventions: it was by accident or as a by-product of something else :)

Date: 2007-10-10 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wechsler.livejournal.com
See also: known knowns and unknown unknowns?

Date: 2007-10-10 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wechsler.livejournal.com
You're not thick, you were just born too late ;)

Date: 2007-10-10 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azekeil.livejournal.com
I started out with that but it didn't quite measure up to what I was trying to say..

Date: 2007-10-10 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azekeil.livejournal.com
Clearly. Although I think I was standing on the shoulders of giants, of course ;)

Date: 2007-10-10 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ev1ldonut.livejournal.com
*giggles*

That 1,2,3,4 sequence just made me immediately think:
1) broke :(
2) idea!
3) ???????
4) PROFIT!!

Date: 2007-10-10 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azekeil.livejournal.com
Step 3 usually does involve pain, yes. ;)

Date: 2007-10-10 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wechsler.livejournal.com
PS: 4 = 1. Any time you think you know everything you find some new stuff. Or at least I do.

Date: 2007-10-10 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azekeil.livejournal.com
It's all a matter of definition of your problem domain. I think actually what's happening is that you keep expanding your problem domain ;)

Date: 2007-10-10 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wechsler.livejournal.com
Erm, yeah, I suspect you've hit the nail on the head.

It's not like it's going to stay still for me though...

Date: 2007-10-10 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azekeil.livejournal.com
Nor me, but then that's what life's all about, isn't it?

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